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Jannat Se Nikali Howi Aurat – Episode 15 – 11th April 2012

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  • midhat

    very emotional.

  • ARG

    Gr8 team performance…. Samina Pirzada rocks!

  • aysha

    Oh my God…in Pakistan do men have that much right to stop a mother from seeing her kids??? Erum's husband first hit her and then kicked her out of the house just because she had not told him about her engagement and now not letting her see her kids. Cant she call the police??? Does she have any rights being a mother and wife, is she protected by law being a woman???

    • sophia

      Aysha!!! All said above is so true… women in Pakistan are so ill-treated. They have no right to think or speak for themselves, all their lives they are controlled by their family men. Thanks Allah I am so lucky that I too do not reside in Pakistan now. I have learnt that women too have the right to take their own decisions and lead their lives according to their choice. Women need not depend on men anymore. Pakistani men are the worst men in this world, highly cunning, dishonest, proud, egoistic, cheaters and honestly worth Nothing!!!!

      Iwould appreciate any Paki man reply to my comment….

      • aysha

        Sofia, I was posting comments like you did on another drama serial (main chand si) last episode and they stopped posting my comments. I am so glad to hear that some pakistani women still have any self worth and self respect left. Else, all the women i talked to say that these are all Allah's commendments to follow their father before marriage and their husband after marriage. They are sooooooooo brain washed by the so called Mullahs and relgion is the biggest factor being used to exploit women in islamic countries. If my comments are not posted after that please send me an email at (apakistaniwoman@yahoo.com)

      • aysha

        To be continued with my post about how religion is used to exploit women: if wife wants to get education, and husband says “NO”, she cant study. Is she considered an adult human being who has a brain and can make decisions???

        She gets half of property share as compare to her brother and gets 1/8th of property share as a mother as compare to her husband who gets 1/4th of share as a father. And you cant say the reason is woman does not have financial responsibility. In current economic situation of the world, both husband and wife have to work for survival and to provide for their kids so both HAVE TO Share financial responsibility equally.

      • aysha

        For witness, her witness is considered half. Some ulema say its only in financial matters that a woman witness is considered half, my question would be if a girl is Yale graduate in finance and a guy has not even seen school, whose witness in financial matters will be considered more authentic?

        • sophia

          Bloody pakis will still consider a man more worthy!! Assholes..

          A man is a man ,,,cos he z got sth better in his trousers .. thats it in a nut shell..

      • aysha

        If wife wants divorce, she has to ask for it by going to court and proving it to the judge why she wants khula, on the contrary, husband dose not have to go to any court/qazi if he wants to divorce his wife. He can divorce her whenever he wants.

      • aysha

        In quaran surah 4:34 is translated as husband has a right to physically hit a wife if she “disobeys”. I have to talked to many scholars in west and they all told me that word DRABHA which is transalted as “hit” by mullahs does not mean hiting. Word has been used 13 times in quran and it means leave. But when i ask muslim women, all they say is if God has given that right to men then we will obey…they are so brain washed that they cant think its not GOD, its all man made things to control women…we badly need ijtihad to fix those things

        • samina

          I dont want to say much accept that you are challanging Islam, please dont drag Islam in your dicussion.If you want to do jihad thn please come to pakistan.Our Prophet (PBUH)did such good deeds he spent equal time with his wives.That is the reason womens witness is not considerd full because they are very emotional and dont have much wisdom .If women would be allowed to divorce trust me every woman would have divoreced his husband.

      • aysha

        He can even keep four wives if he does “justice”. Now let me ask you this, how difficult it is for an arab sheikh to spend equal amount of time and money on four wives? spend each night with each wife and justice is served. Is there anything else between husband and wife except time and money?

        Even there is a universal statistics that there are MORE MEN IN THE WORLD THAN WOMEN, polygamy is till pracitced at large. In saudi Arabia there are 121 men for every 100 women. If i put the links here, my comments are not posted, so please go to google and search on gender ratio to see the truth. Dont our islamic scholas see that, cant they banned polygamy based are gender ratio in the world?

        • Paki Man

          Looks like Aysha and Sophia also cheated their husband’s and were kicked out.. thats why they are taking out there frustration here. lol

          Women should not hide their past affairs or mistakes from husbands. Husbands are willing to accept the mistakes but cant tolerate deceptions. The guy is over reacting. he should give his wife a final chance to tell all about her past clearly and then he should forgive her.. but if she continues to lie/hide. then she deserves a kick in the ass.

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      • Fazzi

        Hi, I am a Pakistan man, you are right, very right. it is happening in Pakistan since ages. but now things are changing though slowly. I have been brought seeing all these atrocities on women.but I have observed one more thing, that not only men are brutal towards women but also women is also played a negative role to ruin other women's life in our society. its basically ignorance and illiteracy who made our society intolerant. but things are changing now. men like me now realised and we respect women as an human being. women in Pakistan has rights in pakistani law. women cant change their fate until they reaslise their rights and practice them. My dont object what my sisters decide, my sister wanted to marry the person she chose and I did even think to object. because I am nobody to decide. neither in my family. my elder sister dont wanted to stay with his husband, and none of my family objected. later on she she decided to patch up and we didn't object again. before 1o years. this was impossible in our family. so things are really changing now.

        • aysha

          FAzzi, Men like you are ray of hope for Pakistan.Reading you comments made my day. If there is realization that things need to be changed, THINGS WILL CHANGE ONE DAY. But if we keep justifying what we are doing, there is no hope. God bless you.

      • http://www.connectture.com suraiya kasim

        Sophia and Aysha, i request you to please don't generalise…all Pakistani men are not like that. You will find people like that all over the world and please don't use religion in the wrong context.

  • aysha

    Just like women have to go court and give justification to a judge why she wants divorce (khula), I wish the law should be same for both spouses. Husband should also be required to go to the court if he wants divorce and it should not happen verbally. I am wondering who resolves custody of the kids issue,child support amount, and distribution of the assets issue if there is no court involved in divorce process???I am so happy in not living in that country anymore. Watching that drama makes me think its a punishment itself being a woman in Muslim countries.

    • samina

      Sorry my dear this law is made by Allah so no chances for cahnge.You want to change what is permitted by Allah.See the brain of a woman.

    • HUMA ALI

      Sister Allah has made some laws for a better reason that perhaps we are unable to understand but there is always something good hidden behind it…why a woman has to cover herself and not a man…why only women give birth ye kam admi bhi to ker sakte the,,,kiun mard ko talak ka hak hai orat ko nahi,,why a husband has to fullfill his wife and kids needs,,there are differences between man and woman which is really good,,no doubt a woman should have the right to see her kids even if she is seperated from her husband, but see, in europe and america, women and men are equal if ur husband shout once you have to shout twice to prouve yourself equal, result? how many divorces? how many children are taking drugs, having kids at the age of 14 or 15 and the boyfriend refuses to take the responsibility of the kid, if u see it with a neutral eye you will recognise that in sab chison se naslein tabahi ki teref ja rehi hein oun ki, but they dont care thier ego is more important than their kids life, a mashriki girl is better becoz she is not selfish, she thinks of her kids and husband before herself, and dont worry she is going to have rewards for that in the hereafter…parents,,when there is fire at home you dont put oil on it, u need some water,,if wife is angry husband should calm her and vice versa…also we say "soui k pichey dhaga hai" "ye dounia goll hai" if u make fun of some bodies situation, if ur mother in law get divorces and u gossif on that matter, talk dirty about her caracter that she should have some affair etc… you get in trouble too, i think that the purpose to show this whole situation is that jab ap kisi or ki taklif ka mazak ourate ho bajae hamdardi dikhaney k to get ready to suffer with same kind of thing…jo k erum k sath hua,,or at last vo kis k pas gui,,she needed her mother in laws shoulder to cry,,,so a lesson for alll girlsss apni saas ko maa samjho, even if u get some hard time with her in start, piar se gusse ko khatam kero,,,if have experienced it with my own saas and now she is the one to tell people that "she has surely done some good deeds to have me" in start her statements were very different about me my face, my skin color, ….never loose hope in Allah

  • aysha

    Erum's freind suggest her to go back home because "mard ka kuch naheen jata". I am wondering why do they say those things? Mard ka kyuon kuch naheen jata? jis tarah aurat kee aulad hay usy tarah mard kee bhee aulad hay. Ager kal ko mard apnay bachuon kee maan ko talaq day ker dosri shaadi ker lay ga to us kay bachuon ka kia banay ga? Or they so selfish that they are ok their kids being raised by step mother ??? Why isnt a father majboor just like a mother is??? why cant they think that way?

  • http://xponent4.com xponent4

    Aysha Rani Mard ban kar socho fir es bat ke samaj ay gee…(in short this is human instinct)

  • Sadaf

    Now I can see clearly y they stopped ur postings aysha big mouth

    • aysha

      Sadaf, unfortunately, women like you are biggest enemy of women.Belive me, if any unfair treatment will be given to you or your loved one, you will definately raise your voice against injsut. But will never support a woman who is raising her voice jsut becuase it hurts her seeing women's plight in country like pakistan. I live in US, I dont have am not facing any issues and living a happy married life. But it pains me alot to see what women are going thru and see how women like you are justifying this ill treatment towards other women.If you see Fazzi comments above, people like him are only ray of hope for pakistan beucas they acknowledge there is an issue and women are being exploited by abusing religion. Hum loag hypocrates hain, zulm per khamoash rehtay hain jab tak wohi zulm hamaray apnay saath na ho.

  • Paki Man

    Looks like Aysha and Sophia also cheated their husband's and were kicked out.. thats why they are taking out there frustration here. lol

    Women should not hide their past affairs or mistakes from husbands. Husbands are willing to accept the mistakes but cant tolerate deceptions. The guy is over reacting. he should give his wife a final chance to tell all about her past clearly and then he should forgive her.. but if she continues to lie/hide. then she deserves a kick in the ass.

    • aysha

      AFFAIR??? You can an an arranged engagment affair??? You comments show how true sofias comments were about Pakistani men. We were talking about general laws protecting womenen and you became personal. Shame on you. When men like you talk so disrespectful about women, you forget that there was a women who gave you birth. Again, SHAME ON YOU.

      • aysha

        Correction. AFFAIR??? You CALL an arranged engagment affair??? Your comments show how true sofias comments were about Pakistani men. We were talking about general laws protecting womeen and you became personal. Shame on you. When men like you talk so disrespectful about women, you forget that there was a women who gave you birth. Again, SHAME ON YOU.

    • aysha

      Also, we were talking about a mothers rights to see her kids. Let me ask you this, lets suppose a parent (mother or father) have an affair, does it mean they should not have a right to see their kids??? Children belong to both parents. If irums husband does not want to be with her, he should never be forced, but he should not have any right to stop a mother seeing her kids and kick her out of the hosue. After marriage, house belongs to both husband and wife. No husband should have a right to kick the wife out. If he does not want to be with the wife, he should never be forced to be with her. But it should be courts decision in regards to who will live in the house and who will leave. And court should decide child custody and child support issues. If it was west, Irum's husband would have been in jail for not letting her in the house and not letting the mother see her kids and would be paying for child maintanice till they turn 18.

  • http://none rainbow

    Irum ko iss thara apnay husband ko nai kana chahay tha , about her mother in law ,that is da mistake she did by keeping negative view for her mother in law .she did not hold good opinion for her mother in law , and now all the things are happening to her .That is the reason now a days divorce rate is so high .when both husband and wife dnt understand each other .

    • aysha

      I agree…baruon kee izzat kerni chayey. Lakin is ka matlab yey to naheen kay us ka husband us per haath uthay, usay gher say nikal day, us ko bachuon say milnay na day. Is that fair? and if you say "NO", then why there isnt any law to stop husbands from doing all that?

  • Sadaf

    Aysha I didn't mean to be offensive to u or some thing but ur right aurat hi aurat ki dushman hai balkay aurat khod apni Bari dushman hai like in this drama too that

    old couples divorce that woman pushed him into doing all that and then that irum girl was saying stuff abt his mother agar aap bhi us ki jagga per hoti aur koi apko Maan k baray main aisa Kuch Kehta to I am sure same hi karti Alll this means mostly women do all this to them selves khod apni hi wajasay I m a woman and also live in USA and am from Pakistan tooo but this is a fact if u believe or not women need to sacrifice and tolerate to save any relationship in her life to servive

    • Asma

      So only women need to sacrifice and tolrate??? Relationship survive on give and take from both sides Miss sadaf. If only one person is sacrificing, its called majboori (not relationship).kisi kay zulm aur ziadti ko bardasht keranya ko aap azmat kehti hain?? I do respect elders and I agree that Irum should not have said disrespectful things about her mother in law but that is not the point here. The point is, kia us ka kasoor itna bara tha kay us ko gher say nikal dia jaay aur us kay bachuon say na milnay dia jaay??? Irum's husband was making a big fuss over a past arranged engagement and Irum responded to him but you did not say a word about it. If Irums husband does not want to live with her wife just because she had not told him about the engagment or because she disrespected his mother, he should NOT live with her. BUT the point here is did she deserve to be slapped, kicked out of the house and not allowed to see her kids…that is rediculous and no one in this world should have right to stop a mother see her kids.Kids belong to both (not just father).

    • HUMA ALI

      AOA,

      bilkul sahi kaha ap ne, modren zamaney k modren log jo bhi kehen, humara mazhab keh chuka hai k agar sajda vajib hota to shohar ko hota…to thora sa bardash kiun nahi ker letin oratein,, me ye nahi kehti k orat bout ban ker bethi rehe, jab shohar gusse me ho to chup ker jae chahey bad me apney hissey ki narazgi dikha dey, ye eik key of succes hai her married orat k lie, jab shohar chukh reha ho to Khuda k lie kalmey ka vird ker loo,, daroood perhney lagoo, rooo loo, jo bhi ker loo, per samney se ous vakt na chikho, gussa akal ko kha jata hai,,tin lafz nikley nahi or ap ki zindagi khuar hui nahi, donon ki hi hogi, per orat ki ziada…or khas ker ke shohar ko kabhi ye na kehna k "talak dena tumhare bas ki bat nahi" challenge me na dalen shohar ko,,,

  • aysha

    Sadaf, Asma responded to you. But I am soooooooo surpirzed to see your comments. You are even blaming samina pirzada in this drama for cause of her divorce. The kind of argument this old couple was having in the drama is part and partial of every married life, dose it mean that if wife raises her voice, husband should have a right to verbaly divorce her and destroy her life??? Please have some self worth and self respect being a women and dont degrade other women that much. Dont teach women kay zulum aur ziadti bardasht kerna azmat hay.

  • rania

    amazing drama well scripted well directed n samina pirzada is heart of this drama

  • samina

    Ayesha USA mein reh ker aap bhi angraiz hi ban gai ho I too have live whole of my life abroad but my thinking has not been changed yes aurat hi ko sacrifise kerna perta hai its true.Aurat hi ghar banati hai aurat hi ghar bigarti hai.Aurat mard k bagair kuch nahi hai thr is no place in the world for alone and single women. I must say maar khao yah joote khao apne husband k ghar hi raho because aurat ka koi ghar nahi baap ka,bhai ka, bete ka n husband ka ghar.

  • http://WWW.Facebook.com/kosoko.femi Femi

    Good to be here life gos on.

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